tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post7348061184171375950..comments2024-01-29T08:21:19.450+03:00Comments on Oderint Dum Probent: Беспалов А.В. Копылов Н.А. Генерал Вольмар Антон фон Шлиппенбах – потомок рыцарей ливонских. (на правах рецензии)Gromoboyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14513137327707308631noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post-40108520324555325022014-08-11T12:17:19.155+04:002014-08-11T12:17:19.155+04:00See some add-ons about Schlippenbach in Bengt Nils...See some add-ons about Schlippenbach in Bengt Nilsson's blog:<br />http://members.tripod.com/bengt_nilsson/blog/index.blog?entry_id=2341032<br />Gromoboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14513137327707308631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post-30290280150911023412014-08-02T15:20:06.599+04:002014-08-02T15:20:06.599+04:00It could also be noted that the source given in fo...It could also be noted that the source given in footnote 58 really doesn't say anything at all with relevance to the paragraphs between footnote 57 and 58. The letter in question, dated Reval 8 September 1703, from de la Gardie to Frölich simply relates the difficult situation in Estonia and Schlippenbach's inability to handle the Russians by himself. De la Gardie suggests that Frölich should consult with Lewenhaupt to see if it would be possible to send some units from Courland which could, together with the peasants, organize a diversion in the rear of the Russians. The letter contains no complaints against Schlippenbach, no suggestions that he should be replaced or anything else of that kind. Bengt Nilssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15416057529387059704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post-85771578787292922522014-08-02T14:35:43.332+04:002014-08-02T14:35:43.332+04:00Thank you very much for your add-on! There are sti...Thank you very much for your add-on! There are still a lot of gaps in our knowledge about the GNW Gromoboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14513137327707308631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post-31066003061623636952014-08-01T20:45:29.860+04:002014-08-01T20:45:29.860+04:00In this case it unfortunately looks like the autho...In this case it unfortunately looks like the author of the article indeed has borrowed references from Palli. One example is footnote 58, which corresponds to footnote 503 in Palli's work. A problem which from time to time appears in Palli's work is that the page numbers he gives do not correspond with the present numbers. In this particular case the letter is not on pages 196-197 as he says, but on pages 326-328. <br /><br />I believe his is also mistaken about Schlippenbach's career after 1703. He was not relieved of his command in the fashion suggested, but after the fall of Narva and Dorpat Livonia became secondary to Courland. I am also fairly sure that Schlippenbach was not with Lewenhaupt in 1708, but had jointed the main army before that. <br /><br />It's also worth noting that the main sources for the military career of Schlippenbach are not in Riga or Tartu but in Stockholm, where for instance his "field archive" is preserved.Bengt Nilssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15416057529387059704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post-70753062934859826892014-07-31T09:09:58.720+04:002014-07-31T09:09:58.720+04:00Именно на это я и намекал ;))))Именно на это я и намекал ;))))Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17738754713202552692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post-86003210333518126052014-07-30T19:30:30.650+04:002014-07-30T19:30:30.650+04:00Диссертация Балашовой не была опубликована в виде ...Диссертация Балашовой не была опубликована в виде монографии, только одна глава в виде статьи. И Палли ссылается именно на статью (см стр. 30), поэтому и номера страниц в ссылках на Балашову совпадают с ее статьей. Но Беспалов и Копылов НЕ ВИДЕЛИ ни статьи, ни диссертации, более того, они даже внимательно раздел книги Палли по источникам прочитать не удосужились, поэтому и получилась такая очевидная глупость. Gromoboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14513137327707308631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007632461892109454.post-39817686655983324172014-07-30T13:36:15.267+04:002014-07-30T13:36:15.267+04:00"В 1960-м году была защищена диссертация Ю.П...."В 1960-м году была защищена диссертация Ю.П. Балашовой, но ссылка-то дается на сборник, а он вышел в 1954".<br />Палли в своей работе цитировал именно работу 1960 года, она же в сносках. Возможно ноги оттуда растут ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17738754713202552692noreply@blogger.com